Some notes from David Perell interviewing Logic.
“I don’t listen to rap”
A big theme from this is that Logic is interested in far more than just hip-hop. He’s taken the approach that many other 30-somethings do: just keep listening to what you used to listen to—for him this is stuff like “Midnight Marauders” by a Tribe Called Quest.
“Hip hop was my everything. Now my son is my everything. My well-being. My wife.”
When he was rapping, recording, touring full time, he was really going at it. It was everything. All he thought of. It consumed him. Feedback hurt. And he wasn’t happy.
Now he has different priorities. When people tell him “Oh I miss the old you the old you cared about rap more”… they’re right. He’s more focused on his family and having fun with creative work that brings him joy. The old way made him rich and famous. And very unhappy.
“The competition mentality… I don’t like that.”
This probably differs from most rappers. Especially most pre-internet rappers. The industry was fueled by beef and battles. That’s still part of the culture as well.
Logic doesn’t look at it as competition. While he’ll think along the lines of Oh that’s nice but I want to try to do something better, he’s not thinking that someone else winning means that he’s losing. There’s not a limited pie to go around.
“I’m one of the best rappers”
He is absolutely confident in his skill. And he knows the amount of work that he’s put in. He talks about this in the context of trying out new types of music, having different interests. He says he wants to try something he’s not good at because it’s interesting to learn something new. To be challenged. He can rap already. He’s proven that.
“Lord Subliminal” Yes.
Everyone had bad usernames when they were younger. Lord Subliminal was one of his on a rap site. He used to write raps on Spoken vs. Written. He talks about how weird this was where you’re just typing out battle raps.
(I used to do dabble in this on probably some sub forum on Rhyme Arena or some lesser known forums in the early 2000s—good times!
“Stay off the internet.”
That’s the secret.
Get out of your own head.
He talks about turning all the noise off in the past few years. By turning that down, he’s found he’s finally able to focus and be more creative.
Getting feedback on the internet is different for celebrities in a way that is probably hard to feel if you’re not one. People say your wife is ugly, your baby should die.
And when it comes to creative feedback, at a certain level you will never release something that people universally love.
At a certain point, you can’t get constructive feedback so you just need to turn it off.
“I make stuff for people that like the stuff I make.”
That might not be the best mindset for someone brand new to something because your stuff is probably bad.
But once you have an audience, it might be more sustainable to just make stuff for people that like your stuff. Why convert haters when you can find the people who would love your work?
“I love everything about making it except releasing it.”
Logic absolutely loves making music. The creative process is always going to be a part of his life. What he doesn’t look forward to is releasing it, for the above feedback reasons.
Last thing: if you want to get good at freestyling, read the dictionary and thesaurus over and over and over.